Im having a hard time figure out how to setup the trapeze. posted a while ago and didn't get much response, I have since done some more looking around and it appears I have to j hooks, for a continuous trapeze but cant find any images of them in use to figure out how to set em up. any help here is greatly appreciated. Thanks all.
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Posted: May 01, 2010 - 03:33 PM
At the top the line runs up to your mast hound. Your harness hooks to the ring on the left. The shock cord on the lower right goes to the same trap wire on the other side of the boat Usually under the tramp from one side to the other. There are several other types of rings and hooks that you can use.
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Posted: May 01, 2010 - 05:11 PM
Here is a picture from I believe, Airbornes setup. The trap wire comes from the masthound down to the trap handle. Below the handle is a short line (blue) that runs through a small block. One end of the line is connected to a metal loop, the other end to a bungee cord that runs through the front beam, to the trap line on the other side,or under the tramp to the opposite side.
The bungee keeps the line retracted & snug when not in use. To use, grab the metal loop,(dogbone) & hook it under the metal hook on the harness you are wearing,(see picture of harness above). As you hike out over the side, the blue line will run through the block til it hits that little black rubber thingy that is tied onto the blue line. This will limit how far you can "fall" towards the horizontal. Moving the little stopper serves as an adjustment.
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Posted: May 01, 2010 - 06:06 PM
I have never seen a continuous trapeze system in use on a catamaran. I'm not sure they would work. If you only have the J hooks you are probably better off starting new with one of the systems shown above. Anyone else have experience wiht a continuous trapeze (one you don't have to unclip and reclip into)?
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 12:59 AM
Ya I cant find much info about it. It came with one j hook attached to each wire, a shock cord from j hook to j hook, and a bearing and clamcleat on the shock cord. So my thinking is you use kind of the setup shown above but instead of unclipping you just slide the clamcleat off the j hook and along the shock cord to the other j hook. but that would only work if the shock cord was not under anything or clipped on to anything... I think im going to end up going with a system like above. was just curious if anyone had any experience with what im talking about...
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 06:02 AM
You should NOT have 1 shock cord for both hooks/dog bones.
You should have 2 or separate shock cords... The reason why, if that shock cords breaks when yer both traped out, yer both gonna go~~ Who is gonna maintain the boat?? no one!! I brought that up with a friend of mine... He gave me that "DHHHH LOOK"~~ He doesn't sail anymore, stupid idiot left his cat on shore for the winter. The ICE WAS HUNGRY.
Need I say more?????
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 01:02 PM
popeye,
The system Matt is talking about is one in which you never have to unhook and rehook your harness when tacking, it just slides with you from one side of the boat to the other.
Matt, like I said not many cat sailors are familiar with it. :) I think it is mostly a mono boat thing where there isn't much distance between the two sides of the boat. I would be interested in seing how it would work on a cat, but it looks like a PITA. Probably better off with a more standard rig (like you said).
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 01:39 PM
Matt, I must have missed what boat you have. You've received some good info on this thread but if we knew which boat exactly you could receive better instructions and help. The system for cats is pretty much the same on every one, what is different is how they attach to the hulls and where the bungees run.
Please fill out your Profile with boat and location info and you may get some local help as well.
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 04:35 PM
Will fill out info, didn't realize it wasn't filled out. I'm in the Capital Region of Canada (Ottawa area). As for the boat, I'm not sure what kind it is. no marking on it and cant find any that look like it. 15 foot hulls, two ports (middle and back) in both. 25 foot mast. It came with a Hobie sail but i assume it was purchased later than the boat as it is fairly new. The trap is attached the each hull via awning track. There doesn't seem to be any apparent spot for the shock cord to hook up to so I'm just gonna run it under the tramp and setup an adjustable rig. Anyone have a recommendation for the best place to get trapeze stuff?? Below is a pic of the boat. I have since taken it apart to redo the hulls and replace hardware.
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 06:12 PM
Wow, that is a SWEET boat! Are you sure it is just 15 feet long? How wide is it (that might help also)? That hull shape looks fairly modern!
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 09:27 PM
Not 100 percent sure its 15, it was advertised as 15 foot. I will take some actual measurements tomorrow. Ive got a suspicion it is built from a kit or something as you can see a seam along the length of the hulls.. the inside looks like sprayed fiberglass... -
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 09:33 PM
great looking cat
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Posted: May 02, 2010 - 10:23 PM
The shape, daggerboard wells and lack of a jib make it look like and F17 to me. It certainly looks longer than 15 feet and I doubt those hulls were made from a kit. All fiberglass hulls look like that on the inside. It could be an early 2000s Nacra F17 or even a Hobie 17/Fxone (not familiar enough with the early 2000 hobies to tell from teh hull shape). If you can find the serial number on teh back of the hulls we can probably figure out the year and make. If it is an F17, man that will be a rocketship!!
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Posted: May 03, 2010 - 07:44 PM
So It's definitely only 15 feet, Right on the nose. The shape does look a lot like the f 17 though. Did they make a 15 foot version at some time? or a similar boat in 15 foot length? I could get the exact width because I have her all apart right now fixing her up, but I would put it around 7 feet. No serial number to be found. -
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Posted: May 03, 2010 - 08:11 PM
Its the wrong shape to be a hobie or a prindle of that size. It could be a Mystere 4.3 Uni, you are in the right location for it. Anyone else have any ideas?
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Posted: May 04, 2010 - 09:16 AM
dats not a mystere 4.3
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Posted: May 04, 2010 - 10:28 AM
Hmm, I have no idea then. Maybe it is a kit boat or an early F16?
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Posted: May 04, 2010 - 05:20 PM
Looks kinda like a Supercat.
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