I've found a 21se I may be interested in, but the sails are shot. Anyone know someone with a decent set of sails they would be willing to part with? I'm looking for a set that will last 2 seasons or so and don't look like butt.
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Hobie Getaway
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South Padre Island, TX
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Hobie 21SE sails for sale?
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Posted: Jun 26, 2016 - 12:27 AM
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Posted: Jun 26, 2016 - 09:56 AM
When you are looking for new sails whirlwind makes awesome sails for the 21SE. Also seen Elliot Pattison sails that look really nice too for the 21. Sorry don't know of any used out there.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2016 - 11:47 AM
Thanks. I did take a look at whirlwind, and they look nice. I wish I had new sails in the budget.
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Hobie Getaway
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Posted: Jun 26, 2016 - 03:02 PM
How bad are the sails with the boat? A good sailmaker can do quality repairs to an old sail to keep it going. Bolt ropes can be replaced, rips fixed, windows replaced, etc.
They didn't make a lot of Hobie 21se since it was a specialty boat (built specifically for a pro race circuit) and only produced from about 1988 to 1992, so there are not going to be a lot of used sails laying around. Something to consider when buying one of those.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2016 - 04:05 PM
Yeah, I know this is pretty much a shot in the dark. I just thought I'd ask and see. Their are no quality sail makers/repairers within at least 120 miles of me, and it is probably more like 300 miles. The sails are faded, demalinating, stained, frayed, etc. I could probably limp a few sails out of them, but sailing in a large bay with old worn out sails and my family on board is just a recipe for disaster.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 01:16 PM
So... it looks like Whirlwind sails lost their website. Are they still in business?
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Hobie Getaway
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 01:16 PM
So... it looks like Whirlwind sails lost their website. Are they still in business?
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Hobie Getaway
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 04:01 PM
The Whirlwind site is back up
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 06:21 PM
What area are you in?
If they have any delamination, they are toast. At my loft, we can exceed the value of the sail very quickly trying to repair that.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 09:39 PM
I'm in south Texas, near South Padre Island, and thanks for the definitive. I was fairly certain they were gone.
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Hobie Getaway
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Posted: Jun 27, 2016 - 11:43 PM
+1 for whirlwind
The website seems fine
http://www.whirlwindsails.com/
If the boat basically has no sails, you should be able to negotiate the boat price down more than you think. Then use the saved cash to get new sails. A new set of sails will basically make your boat perform "as new" and add a great deal to enjoyment of the sport.
BTW, is this going to be your first catamaran?
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 01:31 AM
Slo Sail And Canvas
http://www.slosailandcanvas.com/hobie-21-se/
Also makes a good sail and has choices for the Hobie 21SE, between the sites mentioned at least you'll get a realistic idea what new sails would really cost, might not be as bad as you thought.
Absolutely nothing makes you feel better about your boat than new sails.
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 08:57 AM
Slo Sail And Canvas is the worst vender I have ever dealt with
I sent them a trampoline as a template, they asked for me to get more measurements from my boat tramp track (as they had never built a mystere tramp before) but they never did the work, never returned the tramp, stopped returned my calls after a while
I would not ever recommend them and will go out of my way (ever chance I get) to spread the word.
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 09:05 AM
This will be my first cat, but I have logged many hours on h16's. I used to give lessons and take people for joy rides as a summer job in high school. One of my friends also had two 16's. At the time, he and I were the youngest to ever sail the Rough Rider Regada from SPI to Corpus Christi.
I have made offfer that is quit a bit lower than his asking price in order to leave room in my budget for new sails. We'll see what happens in the next few days.
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Hobie Getaway
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 09:37 PM
So the 6oz dacron sails are just fine, right?
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 10:03 PM
We've heard it too many times Andrew and we all figure there's another side to it. I get excellent service from SLO and order 1/2 dozen to dozen tramps a year. Pete -
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Posted: Jun 28, 2016 - 10:59 PM
Yes, we all have...
I would pledge a $50 for you old tramp so we do hear about it ever again. Who is with me?
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Posted: Jun 29, 2016 - 11:59 AM
I am glad you get good service
I am sure there is another side too...
I am sure I got under his skin after the 3rd or 4th call when I (very politely and professionally) inquired with him why my tramp wasn't completed (weeks if not months after the promise date). I then waited 4 months to post anything about SLO sail and Canvas
but he is not professional or honorable enough to contact me with his side/reasons or to just return the tramp I sent him, or make good for it (as it wasn't even mine)
I heard on catsailor.com from people who know him personally and that reached out to him about this very issue that he:
a. got busy with orders from Murray's
b. was in the middle of moving to a bigger facility
c. was pissed (months later) that I posted negatively about him/SLO Sail and Canvas
None of those are a good reason to not do the work promised, and much more importantly, returning the tramp I sent him as a template.
I am not writing this for the benefit of people who have heard it before, but for the benefit of people who haven't. i.e. someone buying their first catamaran
Feel free to skip over my comments if they bug you
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Posted: Jun 29, 2016 - 02:19 PM
I'm just glad I live in Ca. where I don't ever stand the chance of meeting you. Particularily after your diatribe against Rick on the other site for his innocuous emails promoting his site to try to pay the bills. Pete -
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Posted: Jun 29, 2016 - 02:25 PM
that's ok. I'm not here to make you my buddy.
I'll take you off the x-mas card list.
my "innocuous" email was not against Rick trying to make a buck, it was telling him that his lack of a working optout, and harvesting of emails were poor practices and borderline illegal. there was no malice in my post.
But what do I know, I've only been working with emails and newsletters for 20 years and Can-Spam laws since they started in 2003
And most people agreed w me that they were annoying and not a good marketing practice
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