Looking at buying a boat with my intentions on sailing on small inland lakes here in Michigan. I have sailed monohauls on the inland lakes as well as Lake St. Clair and Lake Erie raging from 19' - 28'. I grew up sailing my own 12' trimeran (bought from Sears LOL)and my Dad's home built 19' trimeran at the local metroparks. I did buy a 16' Venture Cat from an estate sale when I was 16 and sailed it a few times buy it did not have it's original rigging and did not preform well at all (don't even remember flying a hull). Never could afford a "real" cat.
Now some 25 years later (maybe my mid-life crisis) I can get a real cat. I am married with 4 boys 13,10,6 and 2 and remember how much fun I had with my Dad exploring the local lakes being able to beach the boats on the islands and beach.
Loking at either a Hobie 16, 18 or Nacra 5.0, 5.2. I am 6' 250. Wondering if something with wings is more comfortable (backrest) or you spend most of the time hiking out?
How easy are they to right once capsized?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated....
From what I have read so far, seems like the Nacra's are little more beefy but parts are easier to comy by with a Hobie....
Did I remember a forward tramp on either?
Thanks
Tim
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 07:45 AM
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 09:52 AM
The Hobie Getaway would be a great starter boat for you, rotomolded plastic hulls, wings, forward tramp, furling jib, boomless main, practically indestructible, high volume hulls can carry your entire family and gear and you could still fly a hull. Can be pricy though, but the ability to sail up onto a beach and not worry too much about the bottoms is priceless.
http://www.boattrader.com…-Hobie-Getaway-101658346
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 10:11 AM
I think thats what I am leaning towards....fast as the 16' ? -
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 10:27 AM
If you are awesome then you will get a Nacra 5.0!
The following thread applies to your Question also.. http://www.thebeachcats.c…ms/viewtopic/topic/13453
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 10:35 AM
no, but i agree it is the better boat for your needs (little kids, larger weights, wings, front tramp, easy to right)
Portsmith ratings (smaller is faster)
Hobie 16 76.0
Hobie Getaway 83.3
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 04:15 PM
A lot when your buddy sails by on his faster cat
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 04:29 PM
True, but only if your buddy also has his four kids on board at the time!
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 04:58 PM
from the classifieds
a 2 person race boat, nacra 5.2, with 5 on board
can it do it? - yes it can
does it look fast? - no it doesn't
will it handle well? - no it won't
if you want to carry a lot of people
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 05:01 PM
My buddy on his 21se and more kids than I can count goes by my h18 easily.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 05:50 PM
Out of the ones you listed the 5.0 would be the winner. You can right it by yourself, has good volume in the hulls, no boom to hit kids heads and its fast. Parts aren't a problem for Nacras and the 5.0 is still made as the 500 (almost all the parts are common between them).
The advantage of the getaway is comfort and toughness. The wing seats are very comfy and the boat itself is bomb proof. The only problem is that it isn't real fast and Hobie puts those awful pastel sails on the darn things. Also I'm not sure how much hull flying or trapezing you can do on one (which is a lot of the fun for me).
With 4 kids of that age, if you are buying for the family I would tend toward the Getaway. If you are buying for yourself get the 5.0.
Regards,
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 06:28 AM
Was kinda leaning towards the Getaway but thinking the 5.0 is more inline with the Wife's idea of a budget...where I plan to sail 90% of the time is a Metroparkhere in Michigan and basically the family would set up "base camp" at the picnic area where the kids can swim and play while Dad sails and the kids can take turns with Dad.
Seems as if Nacra's can be had under $3,000 with trailer for a decent boat where as the Getway is mid to upper 5
I being on the "fluffy" side of things did like the idea of the wings as it did look more comfortable on the back rather then just sitting on the tramp. Never flown in the trapeze, maybe that would be comfy as well as a helll of a ride.... -
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 06:52 AM
How about a Hobie 18 w/wings? Still go for a Nacara? -
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 07:00 AM
Get a Getaway, it is bullet proof, we bought a Wave for 2k this year, keep looking and you will find a get away for a good price. No boards, no boom, no hassle, no worries, just a great recreational boat. I have a Hobie 18 and an Nacra, both have their good points but for your needs the getaway is the best bet. JMHO, YMMV, Ricardo.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 07:18 AM
good boat but - very heavy boat, much harder to right, has boom, no front tramp -
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 10:16 AM
Another plug for the Nacra 5.0. The good:
- It's a very fast boat (I carry 3 kids sometimes without issues, even pulled a tube behind it). I have seen a wave and though a good starter boat I think you will be looking to switch pretty soon.
- no boom
- no dagger boards to handle (or break).
- easy to set up, it takes me literally 15 minutes to set up the boat (mast stays up).
- straight hulls are very forgiving so no pitch poling, etc..
The bad:
- It might be a little harder to find a good used one and so you may pay a little more then a hobie 16 of the same age as those are readily available.
- What else is bad? Your wife might get pissed because you are hanging out with your new love too much.
Here are som vids that I have made during the last 2 years.
Pulling the tube http://www.youtube.com/wa…UUThnz5W77LRR3tRNOxp9kXQ
Just having fun going fast http://www.youtube.com/wa…UUThnz5W77LRR3tRNOxp9kXQ
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Posted: Aug 24, 2012 - 12:28 AM
You dont have to buy a Hobie Getaway just so you can have wings. I was desperate for wings, but had to find a similar boat in South Africa, so I bought a Dart18, and I'm now almost done with custom wings. I tried to include a pic but without success...
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Posted: Aug 24, 2012 - 11:08 AM
Darts rock!
Just got beat by one, racing in the Pacific.
He bested Hobie 18's, an F16 and a Nacra 18 and 20.
Edited by klozhald on Aug 24, 2012 - 10:10 AM.
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