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  • The Tornado we rescued didn't have a downhaul set up. It is the classic rig and an absolute blast. I see how it's done by looking at the photos on this site. Anyone figure an economical way to put a downhaul system together? I wonder what ratio we should choose? It's a recreational boat.

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    John

    Houlton Tornado
    Hobie Wave (2)
    Hobie 16 - on Craigslist
    AMF Force 5
    AMF MiniFish
    O'DAY Javelin (sold)

    CT
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  • not sure if it will help but here's my set up on a mystere 5.5

    http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=127129&g2_serialNumber=4

    http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=127132&g2_serialNumber=4
  • On the Harken site http://www.harken.com/DeckLayout.aspx?id=13768
    you can see the setup. It is 16:1 but for recreational use 10:1 or even 8"1 wil do.
    You wil like the downhaul-system, it gives a lot of trimming possibilitys.

    The biggest costs wil be all the blocks, you could look at the secondhand market,
    or use alternative brands like Ronstan or Viadana, cause H blocks are
    ridiculously expensive.
    On my T I have 10:1 downhaul setup, all Ronstan and for the spi its Viadana
    all the way. Downside of the Viadana carbon block is their bearings are open,
    so not suited for sandy beaches.
    I rig my T on the lawn at the club, so no issues there.

    Grtz, André

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    Tornado (80's Reg White)
    Prindle 18-2 (sold)
    Dart 16 (hired and hooked)
    13 mtr steel cutter (sold)
    Etap 22, unsinkable sailing pocket cruiser.

    Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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  • My H16 down haul is a line only that I pull down "just to get the wrinkles out" per Matt Miller, and it works fine, set it and forget it kind of thing. I guess in a racing application, one would want to adjust the down haul, but for me, the existing system I have works fine.

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    Marty
    1984 Hobie 16 "Yellow Fever"
    Opelika, Al / Lake Martin
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  • martyrMy H16 down haul is a line only that I pull down "just to get the wrinkles out" per Matt Miller, and it works fine, set it and forget it kind of thing. I guess in a racing application, one would want to adjust the down haul, but for me, the existing system I have works fine.


    On a T you need a downhaul with a certain purchase. Not only "to get the
    wrinkels out" ,but to flatten the main in a stiffer breeze.
    They are different boats.

    A

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    Tornado (80's Reg White)
    Prindle 18-2 (sold)
    Dart 16 (hired and hooked)
    13 mtr steel cutter (sold)
    Etap 22, unsinkable sailing pocket cruiser.

    Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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  • LoL, on my nacra I have a 16:1 and if not care full you can rip the head plate right off the main. Did it on an older sail recently. But in stronger conditions, a powerful cascading downhaul , say a 10:1 or 16:1 coupled with a healthy mainsail , is super important for depowering this beast. Ray javascript:void(0);

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    Nacra 5.8 NA
    '05 Getaway sold
    Hunter 216 traded
    windrider 17 gone
    Hobie 18 M sold
    Hobie 18 sold
    RS Vision and........
    Assorted Racing Dingies
    "life is too short for slow boats"
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  • QuoteMy H16 down haul is a line only that I pull down "just to get the wrinkles out" per Matt Miller, and it works fine, set it and forget it kind of thing. I guess in a racing application, one would want to adjust the down haul, but for me, the existing system I have works fine.

    your mast is very robust (hard to bend) and your lack of spreaders mean - no "pre-bend" that is all good and fine for your type of boat that races stock

    more modern rigs have a much more flexable mast that has spreaders to not only reinforce it's strength but allows it to be adjustable in many directions . One way it bends is top of mast - aft. in combo with the cut of the sail (specific to this type of mast) this will help to flatten the sail out= beneficial in reducing the amount of heel your boat does when hit with a gust.
  • I have a lower mast base setup that gives you the three sheaves at the bottom for either an 8:1 or 16:1 setup. My email address is my screenname AT gmail.com. You will need these harken double blocks: http://www.apsltd.com/micro-double.html

    That gets you 8:1. A pair of blocks or antal rings on the sail gets you 16:1: http://www.apsltd.com/antal-20mm-low-friction-ring.html, http://www.apsltd.com/40mm-carbo-single.html

    16:1 is preferred on a T sail for fine tuning.
  • QuoteYou will need these harken double blocks: http://www.apsltd.com/micro-double.html

    https://pull01-apsltd.netdna-ssl.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/72x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/i/micro_double_h226.jpg
    I have 2 of them, almost brand new, used 1 season fresh water on a Mystere 6.0
    PM me if interested.



    Edited by Edchris177 on Mar 20, 2017 - 03:18 PM.

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    Hobie 18 Magnum
    Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
    Nacra 5.7
    Nacra 5.0
    Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
    Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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