hi, im new to cat sailing and i saw this one for sale for 2600 and want to know if its a good price here is what it comes with.
heres the ad
I restored this boat last year. New trampoline, new shrouds, new lines. Hulls are solid fiberglass so there is no sandwiched foam to come delaminated. The hulls went through a total restoration, tops were removed and rebuild, all stress areas backed up with minimum 2 layers of new fiberglass cloth. All the hard work is done, hulls now just need to be painted. Includes trailer with sailbox, beach wheels, complete spare rudders with castings, furling jib with new zipper and removable battens, sunbrella covers for tramp and furled jib. I have a spare main I will incude, but will need a trip to the sailmaker for repairs on battenpockets and sail. I also have two spare hulls, and crossbars, the front crossbar is not good for use, but could be used to reinforce the existing front crossbar to prepar for a spinnacker. This is not the NA model with the bow foil. I have a 2" carbon fiber righting pole from a mast of a windsurfer, but it has not yet been installed.
This was going to be my baby, but I have moved up to a larger mono hull, and do not wish to maintain two boats. Restoration was done with me keeping this boat for long term in mind, so they were done meticulously and stoutly, there are no soft spots or cracks in these hulls. The bottoms have had fiberglass cloth and resin added to them. This restoration was done with polyester resin to match the original build, there is no epoxy resin used on this boat that I am aware of.
does this sound like a good deal? thankyou
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 09:22 AM
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 03:49 PM
My in experienced opinion says everything has been done all ready to this boat that you woul likely decide to try to do to it yourself so you are saving a lot of future money you may put into it just with that. It is more than I could pay for a old used boat like this. I suspect he is trying to recoup some of the time and money had put into it. The reality is it probably doesn't raise the value as much as he hopes.
However if he had not done all this and was selling the boat for say $1000 without all the extra work he put into it chances are over the next few years you could easily put another $1600 to add all he is including. If it's within your affordable range to pay for a boat then you can spend more time sailing and less time improving the boat. You might see how much wiggle room he has and offer him less and where it goes but otherwise if it's in your budget it it probably a safe deal.
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 04:16 PM
asking price sounds reasonable for what it comes with, but then again, you have to remember it still needs more to be complete.
I would find out how much it would cost for the hulls to be re-gelcoated before buying the boat, and what the wait time would be on it. It would be unfortunate if you bought it and had to wait till next spring to sail it... -
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 06:38 PM
Sounds like a good deal. Depending on what the hulls look like you could get them rejell coated or try your hand at paintng them yourself. You really need to see the boat (take a few pics for us) to know for sure. My boat had a similar description but was more expensive and I have spent quite a bit of money to undo some of the work that was done. Of course the main issue with mine was that the 'new' sails were made by a tarp maker and are completely flat. The work OK but were under reinforced at the main sheet and ripped there, and were slow as molasses.
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 07:10 PM
here is one of the pics BEFORE he restored it. he is sending current pics today or tomorrow.
Also what do you mean that the hulls need to be regel coated? cant it just be repainted?
Edited by optikid on May 29, 2011 - 07:30 PM.
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 07:55 PM
Gel coat is optimal for beach cats because it is much thicker than paint and it "wears" with the boat.
Awl grip standard thickness is ~3 mils, gelcoat thickness is generally 15-20 mils. As far as i'm concerned, new boats come with gel coat, so that's what should go back on. Most people end up painting boats they are refinishing because gel coat is such a hassle. Gel coat requires a lot of coats and a LOT of sanding/polishing. -
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Posted: May 29, 2011 - 08:20 PM
my dad has a a pant spray gun and i thought that would work to repaint it.
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Posted: May 31, 2011 - 06:07 PM
lm looking at it probably this weekend.
heres the hull#trrao138m82j
Edited by optikid on May 31, 2011 - 06:11 PM.
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Posted: May 31, 2011 - 11:20 PM
I didnt read anything indicating that it needed gel coat or paint. sounds like it was ready to sail and then some to me.
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Posted: Jun 02, 2011 - 06:35 AM
Between husband and I we have three boats: all are painted with TWO-PART POLYURETHANE. Two of them in AwlGrip, one in an industrial buoy paint.
All have lasted very well. My two boats' paintjobs are 10 years old (18Sq and F-27GS), and I'm not sure about how old husband's boat's paint is.
Gelcoat is heavy and a PITA to shoot. A well-laid two-part paint is durable and far easier. Prep is key.
But, about the boat:
Sounds like a fair, not a great, but fair, price. I think I'd pay more like 1800-2000 for a boat I've got to paint, and even though it says it's redone (why did it need that, hmmm?), it's still a 1982 boat. Boats are not like cars - they don't become collectible. Unless you're an expert in laying 'glass, you also are taking the chance that all this fibreglass work is well done. There is every possibility that the work is very heavily laid and the boat's performance is then less than optimal as weight kills multihull performance. -
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Posted: Jun 02, 2011 - 08:24 AM
I'd probably take it to a body shop or boat place and have them paint it, it takes a big compressor and water separators/ driers to shoot paint like it should be. Not to mention the health hazards posed by Isocyanates.
Once you see the price of Awl Grip, you may notice its not something you want to have to buy twice. Let an experienced painter do it right for you the first time. -
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Posted: Jun 02, 2011 - 06:49 PM
he sent me restoration pics and it looks like a good boat and he did a good job but i cant get it
the deal was i had to get a A on my math and Spanish 4th q final. i got a B on both.
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1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
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