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  • QuoteThere is nothing wrong or broken. Why make something up? This is a good deal and one of the best boats you can buy. Edchris know a lot about these kind of boats and has provided a lot of good information here but not sure why he decided to make that post


    Hey Rungi,
    You turned up in August as a novice, making almost all the newcomer mistakes one can do. How can you as unexperienced, then state "one of the best boats you can buy"?

    Except for that the sails(originally with boat?) must be 20-35 years old. You will need to spends 2500 USD for up-to-date sails to begin with. Edchris is also on to something when mentioning the four ports indicating there has been some repairs done.

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    Brgds
    Lars

    Frankencat 5.5/F18
    Soon Frankencat 5.8/F20
    49er
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  • rungi
    QuoteThat boat is overpriced. Really good condition, maybe- with 4 ports added, something was wrong or broken


    I know you know a lot about this boat but, please don't make up something out of your ass.
    There is nothing wrong or broken. Why make something up?


    Really George (Rungi)?? You're kidding, right? You have the wrong rudders, the wrong 5.8 mast on a 5.7 platform, you have no clue of the age of the rigging, or if it is the right length, sails are old . . . and you've posted 147 times, many times pissing on the advise of very experienced members trying to help you. BTW you have complained more than once what is wrong with the design of your boat, and everything else that is wrong or problems with your boat . . . yet this forum is the best market you have for selling your boat! Don't poke the tiger!

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    Philip
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  • Not sure your point. The boat has been both repaired and modified.
    Are you trying to suggest that old boats are broken and having something wrong with them?
    I have been taking this boat out every weekend. The most difficult thing with this boat is moving it on land.
    Sailing it is very easy.

    Are you trolling because you don't like the price. What is the boat worth in your opinion?
    Why should a new sailor not buy this kind of boat? What is the boat they should get?

    Is there something wrong with the sails?
    You can ask questions, and help other, but don't make up lies. Nobody needs that.
  • Are you surprised, when the shit hits the fan icon_wink ?

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    Brgds
    Lars

    Frankencat 5.5/F18
    Soon Frankencat 5.8/F20
    49er
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192604934176635
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  • rungiNot sure your point. The boat has been both repaired and modified.
    Are you trying to suggest that old boats are broken and having something wrong with them?
    I have been taking this boat out every weekend. The most difficult thing with this boat is moving it on land.
    Sailing it is very easy.

    Are you trolling because you don't like the price. What is the boat worth in your opinion?
    Why should a new sailor not buy this kind of boat? What is the boat they should get?

    Is there something wrong with the sails?
    You can ask questions, and help other, but don't make up lies. Nobody needs that.



    The guys on here that are willing to help don't need to make up anything of pull anything out of their ass. They brought up questions because for the age of boat, the price is a premium (like COVID premium). The sails are pretty close to original. I had 2 Nacra 5.8's that were mid-80s vintage and had the two-tone blue stripe. I had a late 80s vintage main with the orange stripes. I believe, they only made white mains after the 80s. Therefore, this main is near original age. Plus, the later mains had the traveler car for the mainsheet clew. The clew plate with the large holes were mid 80s. The late 80s had more smaller holes for the mainsheet. The mast has Nacra 5.8 on is leading us to believe it is a 5.8 mast. The Nacra 5.0 and 5.7 rudders I had, had a gentle taper from the head down to the blade. I have not seen any 5.0/5.7 rudders with the hard cut-in your boat has. Anytime a boat has an inspection port, questions come up of why the ports? My Nacra 5.0 didn't have any inspection ports, so I assume the 4 ports were added for some reason. The fact the inspection ports do not match is a buzz kill. From being in the marine industry, it shows me someone slapped them on with what they had and didn't take the time and effort to do it right. The starboard aft is black and the port side are both white. From the pic, you can see the edge of the inspection port outer ring sticking up from the curved deck. I would suggest building up an epoxy edge to make sure the hatch sits flat on the curved deck; just looks more professional.

    I do think the Nacra 5.7 is a good boat to start with. Why not get beach wheels to move the boat around on land? This can be done with one person easily. I move my Tornado around singlehandly quite easily.

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    Scott

    Prindle 18-2 Mod "FrankenKitty"
    Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
    Prindle 19 "Mr. Wiggly" - gone
    Nacra 5.8 "De ja vu"
    Nacra 5.0
    Nacra 5.8
    Tornadoes (Reg White)
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  • Just to clarify the boat comes with beach wheels and trailer as well as good main and jib. The sails are old but nothing is wrong with them. Also has a brand new main and jib halyards and roller furling. I do not understand the purpose of trying to troll the add. The boat is awesome. Yes the mast is from a 5.8 it fits perfect. The sails fit perfect also. The rudders are not original they are from a newer model and are probably better in the fact that they go further under the boat. I have not tested them against the original. The boat handles perfectly.

    I was never interested in making the boat look professional. That is not needed. My interest is sailing and having fun. This boat stays dry and the ports are water tight. The boat is fun as hell and has no problems.



    Edited by rungi on Nov 16, 2021 - 03:11 AM.
  • Quote The sails are old but nothing is wrong with them. Also has a brand new main and jib halyards and roller furling. I do not understand the purpose of trying to troll the add. The boat is awesome. Yes the mast is from a 5.8 it fits perfect. The sails fit perfect also.


    Perfect fit icon_rolleyes ? What about showing some humility/sensitivity to those with experience and knowledge? You might have payed to much for this Nacra crossbreed? You´ll then have to bite the bullet and sell the boat, showing it´s shortcomings.



    Edited by revintage on Nov 16, 2021 - 07:12 AM.

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    Brgds
    Lars

    Frankencat 5.5/F18
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  • yes are u able to compare and contrast the 5.8 and 5.7 mast
    I posted about this a while back.
  • what are the short comings?
  • Found this interesting ad of your boat from one year ago icon_wink .
    https://sailboat.guide/oer7qv



    Edited by revintage on Nov 16, 2021 - 05:16 PM.

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    Brgds
    Lars

    Frankencat 5.5/F18
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