Hi All,
My trampoline is very very old and I need a new one soon.
Any ideas of what to buy?
Hobie genuine part or aftermarket?
2 or 3 piece trampoline? Pros and cons please !!
Now i have a 2 piece and I can't really complain, but any advice is helpful.
I need pockets and hiking straps.
Thanks in advance.
//Mats
Hobie cat 17 - new trampoline
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Posted: Nov 02, 2016 - 05:43 AM
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Posted: Nov 02, 2016 - 10:40 AM
if you want to race "class" - you must be stock
if you don't care about that https://www.multihullnets.com/ makes the best product on the market - bar none - but premium product comes at a cost - If you want the longest lasting product, buy the best
they have a good write up on the benefit of different products - https://www.multihullnets.com/Product/bcinfo.aspx
one piece bias cut (with the teflon thread) is my choice
Also, google (review) any company you are going to do work with... when dealing with companies over the web... you never know what is gonna happen
I just checked and the cost between SUNRISE YACHT PRODUCTS (multihullnets.com) and SLO (whom ripped me off) is about the same.. i am surprised to see that
Edited by MN3 on Nov 02, 2016 - 10:45 AM. -
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Posted: Nov 02, 2016 - 01:16 PM
I can't speak to aftermarket products, but OEM Hobie tramps are top quality. If well cared for, they will regularly last 20 years or more. Hobie 17 tramps don't come with hiking straps, so you would have to add those separately (you really can't "hike" on a H17 because the wings are in the way). They do come with a pocket for storing the halyard or other small items. Hobie only offers 3-piece tramps these days in either mesh or vinyl. Being three piece, they are easier to install and easier to tighten than one or two piece tramps. Mesh tramps are wetter but you're never sitting in a puddle. Vinyl are drier, but you can end up sitting in a puddle if the tramp is not tight.
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Posted: Nov 02, 2016 - 02:14 PM
I do agree they are easier to install (but how often do you need to install a tramp?)
not sure I agree with "easier to tighten"
I have had 2 hobies (16, and 18)
both had stock tramps required a few tools to tighten a tramp well (either the tramp tool with pegs, or a few vice-grips)
a bias cut mesh tramp only needs tightening along 1 axes (tighten 1 line, in 1 place) - couldn't be easier, can be done on the fly -
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Posted: Nov 02, 2016 - 11:05 PM
I have a SLO tramp and very happy with it. If you can afford, go with OEM, but it may const you 2x a SLO tramp.
The key is to keep it covered. It is the UV that makes the greatest damage to the tramp.
Also, get them to make 2 pockets, not just one. Normally, one pocket holds the halyard. Having one more, give you more storage for water-bottle, sunscreen, etc.
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Posted: Nov 03, 2016 - 06:45 AM
I should have said, able to be made tighter. On Hobies, getting the tramp very tight seems to be more important than on some of the other boats. If you like having a very tight tramp, three piece is the way to go.
Regarding installation, I remove and install my tramps every year, so being easy to install is definitely a factor.
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Posted: Nov 03, 2016 - 09:10 PM
Put a real tight pocket on the bottom for a righting bag as well. I sewed mine on but if you do not have ability, have it sewn on (but note you everyone has that ability with an easy awl)
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Posted: Nov 04, 2016 - 12:30 PM
The last two mesh tramps, I purchased I had them add twist fasteners to the pockets, instead of Velcro or a zipper. One of those tramps is 6 years old and not a single problem with the twist fasteners. The pockets on the tramps I had made have a flap so small items are not able to slide out between the fasteners
I do not have access to a photo of one of the tramp pockets right now, so the photo is of twisted fastener looks like.
When I had the first one made I was talking to the person on the phone and I kept calling it a beaver tail snap. He had no idea what I was talking about so emailed him a photo of an old beaver tail wetsuit. He then informed me of its correct name.
The reason I decided to try twisted fasteners was, I have seen a number of zipper pockets that over time have failed to work and Velcro that no longer hold the pocket closed.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2016 - 02:37 PM
That's a good idea. My tramp pocket with a zipper has mostly come apart at the zipper stitching, so it can't be closed at all. New tramp will be ordered for spring with better thread. Zippers are inherently weak. Now, if I can only get them to stitch in some cup-holders.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2016 - 03:40 PM
I vouch for the quality of Sunrise. That is what is on the N5.0. We had it re-stiched once, the tramp itself will probably outlast the boat.
The 5.7 pocket is not just a square sewn on, it has "sides", about 2" high. Makes for lots more room. Trying to force zippers closed over stuff jammed into a flat pocket is what ruins the zipper.
Every season! In this part of the World, it is easier to remove the tramp, than concoct something to keep the snow loads off the hulls.
Use those insulated can holders that have a drawstring & a snap clip. You clip them onto the trap line, just above the handle. Keeps your beverage out of the spray & leaves both hands free. When just mucking about home bay,(frequent tacks), we clip one on each side, prevents spillage of valuable product scrambling to the other side when your hands are full.
Edited by Edchris177 on Nov 04, 2016 - 03:48 PM.
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Posted: Nov 05, 2016 - 10:03 AM
Ed, is there anything you don't have a solution for? And I thought I was the beer man!
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