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optikid

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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 06:24 PM

so i got the sticker off now i need to rig it and when i was looking at the bridles i could not figure it out.

the line connects to the same place as the wires. what is it for?
also does this boat rig up the same as a hobie 16?
thanks

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the-renovator

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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 07:50 PM

There is supposed to be a 10-hole stay adjuster attached to those "turnbuckles"

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That line is for some other purpose
optikid

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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 07:56 PM

i have the adjuster its on the forstay. do you have any idea what the line it for?

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nacra55

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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 08:37 PM

That part that the ring is attached to is not a Nacra part. I have no idea what it may have been used for on a Nacra 5.2, unless it was something used to help step the mast with a line running through the ring. Just a guess.

Prindle 16s and 18s used that between the bridle wires and the turn buckle on the end of the fore stay attached to it. Not the ring though.

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erice

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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 08:57 PM

not on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?
dichtbijzee

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 01:12 AM

That's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

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optikid

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 07:47 AM

dichtbijzeeThat's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

im looking at the the wires to see what the owner needs. i need shrouds for sure as they are frayed.

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optikid

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 07:48 AM

ericenot on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?

same place as the bridle on both sides

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MN3

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 08:15 AM

my guess is:
looks like a custom (jerry rigged) bridal system, and the lines are there to avoid it slipping around during stepping (or from sliding while sailing)

If you need a new bridal setup, call mike at ellie's sail shop in clearwater if you need help

PS your hand looks HUGE compared to the cat in this pic with that perspective.

optikidso i got the sticker off now i need to rig it and when i was looking at the bridles i could not figure it out.

the line connects to the same place as the wires. what is it for?
also does this boat rig up the same as a hobie 16?
thanks

Edited by MN3 on Jan 21, 2013 - 08:19 AM.
optikid

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 08:27 AM

so what would the ring be for?

Edited by optikid on Jan 21, 2013 - 09:29 AM.

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MN3

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 08:30 AM

the forestay wraps around it (loops from that ring to the eye of the forestay, just like the ring on a jib furler

if a longer pin was used and the ring was pinned in the same whole as the 2 bridal wires, the 2 guy lines would not be needed
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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 08:30 AM

the trailer looks brand new...
But it doesn't look like there is any carpet on the cradles. if there isn't ... he/you should add some asap or it will mess up the hulls when taking on/off the trailer
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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 08:44 AM

it is new, i believe there is carpet

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Edchris177

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 03:41 PM

It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.

Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

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optikid

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 04:35 PM

Edchris177It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

the guy i working on it for bought it 3 years ago something happened and has was unable to sail it. he has never rigged it. i haven't seen his daggerboads or sails yet

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flyingfishguy

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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 - 07:42 PM

I wonder if the ring goes at the end of the bridle wires with the shackle facing up where the adjuster would mount and the lines were backup shroud wires in case the bridle broke. Just a thought.

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dennisMe

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Posted: Jan 22, 2013 - 07:05 AM

I have a line sort-of like that. on My 5.2 which I use as an anchor bridle. The anchor is an extra safety feature to me and I use it to have lunch whenever I spend a long day on the water and can't be bothered to pull it up on shore. Anchoring without a bridle is no fun at all because the boat will either sail and drag the anchor or shear from side to side hitting me over the head with the boom whenever I'm not looking. ( I almost think it does that on purpose
If you don't need it you may as well lose it, it would just add clutter and it also makes handling on the ground that much more hassle.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2013 - 09:51 PM

Yeah that is definitely not stock. Start from a stock setup and adjust to fit your taste later. If you don't have it, you will need a 10 hole adjuster to connect the bridles to the forestay. If you don't have the little steel triangle to attach the jib to the adjuster you can just use a bow shackle instead. Simpler is better at the start, then you can get fancy with things like portuguese turnbuckles, roller furlers etc etc.

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hyperope

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Posted: Jan 23, 2013 - 11:15 AM

Edchris got me thinking- I think I only secure the boards with the side loaders, but they can be pulled straight out. Any suggestions as to how to do it differently? I'm seriously looking forward to another thing to add to the already time-consuming rigging procedure.

BTW- maybe all the recent rains will bring the GA/SC lake levels back up so we can get the cat in the water instead of the mud.

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MN3

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Posted: Jan 23, 2013 - 11:46 AM

how about a simple bungee lanyard loop around the side stay ?

QuoteAny suggestions as to how to do it differently?