Americas Cup
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Posted: Jan 28, 2021 - 06:17 PM
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Posted: Jan 30, 2021 - 10:10 AM
Well from what I have read, American Magic is done. ☹
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Posted: Jan 30, 2021 - 11:15 AM
Yes they are out.
American Magic out of the America's Cup as Luna Rossa wins
they lost a must win race
they did not win the start and were behind 100 meters pretty early
i think it was about 1/4 of the way through the race when they lost the ability to use a dagger (articulating foil) -
that was the dirt on top of the coffin (the nail in the coffin was when they lost the start and were behind a 100m.) they would have needed the Italians to demast, explode or sink to have any chance
not 100% sure of the rules but they were awarded a penalty shortly after the foil wouldn't respond the first time (either for going out of bounds or having both foils down ... really not sure, i had zoned out by then) they regained the use of the foil but it quickly failed again and they got a second penalty
Commentators said a few interesting things. 1 - this boat was under water a few days ago - the fact they even came back was amazing. 2 while making the repairs the other teams increased speed by 10%.
Let's not forget that Luna Rossa's captin is James Spithill who has been in 4 other AC's and won 3 (if i recall correctly)
next up: Prada Cup final against INEOS Team UK vs Italia's Luna Rossa - winner goes to the AC against NZ
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Posted: Jan 30, 2021 - 12:02 PM
O K call me silly jealous and not knowlegable vis a vis these high tech flying machines/ technical failures exonerate skipper but read the wind/ i remember article in the hobie magazine just after Ted Turner after won Americas Cup, he buys a hobie 16 and attempts to race and finishes last! But im sure he read the wind -
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Posted: Jan 31, 2021 - 11:06 AM
To be totally dependent on electromechanical systems to operate the boat but not have those systems able to withstand total immersion seems like a basic design flaw.
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Posted: Jan 31, 2021 - 07:31 PM
There was little or no wind, races were shortened to account for low wind conditions, larger sails were available . Ted Turner after winning the Americas Cup bought a Hobie 16 and practiced and entered a regatta, but finished last. Perhaps Ted should have read the monthly Hobie magazine(no internet then), or read a few books written by cat sailors? I always check the 3 wind apps on my iphone when I rig and my weather sites BEFORE i go to my cat for safety and to determine what sails I will utilize. In Dart 18 discussions on this site I bring up the small size of Dart 18 sails and that I run up a Prindle 16 or Hobie 16 jib on low wind days. THE NEW YORK YAUGHT CLUB WOULD NEVER visit this site but they should for a myriad of reasons, but a little humor is OK -
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Posted: Feb 01, 2021 - 07:20 AM
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Posted: Feb 01, 2021 - 12:16 PM
More of an operational flaw.
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Posted: Feb 01, 2021 - 03:10 PM
I think all teams that don't make it to the AC final should have a crash up derby
