I hope you are right Dave,, But like I said I am open to trading my Infusion out for a new Phantom even up.
lol
Jenna
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Posted: Jan 27, 2014 - 10:21 AM
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Besides I would provide some serious crash photo ops learning to sail it
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Posted: Mar 19, 2014 - 11:54 PM
Can you run standard F18 boards/foils and race it in F18 rule races?
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Posted: Mar 20, 2014 - 06:15 AM
No, the boat isn't really an F18 at all and violates the F18 rules in almost every way. The beam is too wide and it has too much sail area. It's also too light and made from non F18 approved materials.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 - 08:31 AM
Thanks guys, it will take a while for enough of those to get sold to have a class for racing if ever. I was hoping it could run in F18 rule races without the foiling boards.
I guess you would have to run it in open class and use its rating for corrected time, correct?
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Posted: Mar 21, 2014 - 09:19 AM
Andinista, it'd be nice to have a link on that. I think you need a lot of structural reinforcements, but maybe it can be done.
Stock F-18 is much heavier than the Flying Phantom. It is, unfortunately, not a great candidate for a flying boat. A F-16 would be much better, especially since some are designed with a little bit of lift to begin with
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Posted: Mar 22, 2014 - 06:38 AM
Sorry, i didn,t find it. I think it was somebody from the Phantom team in an interview but can't remember where.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2014 - 09:18 PM
Would someone at OSYC please buy one!!! That way I can tell the wife I "have" to get one so we can have a class race. Come on guys, help me out!!!
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Posted: Mar 27, 2014 - 07:35 AM
For those of you who can't wait to foil or don't have the budget to sustain wrecking a 30k cat while learning to foil there is an Australian company that makes a foiling retrofit kit for the laser. If memory serves correct its around $5k and bring your own laser. I looked at it briefly a few weeks ago and it a full set of new blades with foils on them and some other parts.
Foiling solo may keep the admiral happy by watching from shore.
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Posted: Mar 27, 2014 - 06:24 PM
Here's a link to the Flying Phantom official race-debut, http://vimeo.com/89758333
They smoke every other cat on the water !!
Meanwhile Nacra offers the F20 Carbon with a foiling package, http://www.nacrasailing.com/nacra-f20-carbon-fcs/
And a upgrade kit for the "older" F20 Carbon.
If other builders would come up with an upgrade-kit..
Who knows, we all will be clocking 30 knts + in a few years time.
Gtrz, André
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