• aquaaddict
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 04, 2013 - 08:58 PM

  Hi,
  
  Looking for a replacement H16 jib and Intensity Sails have a great deal on them for $199 (+Shipping) for 5.9oz (that seems very heavy material to me), does anyone have any experience with them? I am not a hard core racer just mess about on my old H16 but here in Australia second hand sails are hard to find, and its going to cost about $80 to ship one in from the US so figure might as well spend $200 on a new one vs $100 on a used one, but cant find any mention of people using Intensity Sails.
  
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• emmettv
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 07:13 AM

  used them to buy a harness . Waited a bit due to it being on backorder , but they kept me informed of shipping date and was received with no issues. They did offer to cancel the order at any time if delay continued . Seemed very honest to deal with and had the best price by far.

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• lovesnumbers
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 08:27 AM

  Though not cats, we launch these off a beach!
  #14 in this Force 5 image is an Intensity, #2098 is class legal Cullen Sailworks sail. It isn't my sail, but I have used it a few times. You can see the geometry isn't quite the same, but its a fine sail.

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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 08:48 AM

  why does the intensity sail main have 2 reefing points?
  
  
  
  Edited by optikid on Aug 05, 2013 - 08:19 PM.
  
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• MN3
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 11:48 AM

  What are you looking at?
  
  I dont see any reefing points on either sail
  
  

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  Why does the intensity sail have 2 reefing points?
  

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• lovesnumbers
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 02:02 PM

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  Edited by lovesnumbers on Aug 05, 2013 - 06:39 PM.

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• windwardde
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 02:10 PM

  It looks like you are seeing the telltales locations
  
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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 05:31 PM

  on the 2 and 3ed panels there are reefing points and on the video on their web site you see them using the bottom ones at one point
  
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• lovesnumbers
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 06:27 PM

  Those sails cannot not reef, at least the ones I've seen. They slide over the mast like a laser sail does. There is a short rig that uses the bottom 2 sections of the mast. If you can find that video, I'd love to see it.

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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 07:18 PM

  http://vimeo.com/64361203
  3:10 its reefed 3:15 you can see the points
  
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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 07:20 PM

  i get what happened!! sorry i meant the hobie main
  
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• lovesnumbers
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 05, 2013 - 07:31 PM

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  i get what happened!! sorry i meant the hobie main
  

  
  Oh! now I follow you. Sorry for the confusion. =)

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• DamonLinkous
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 11:10 AM

  optikid

  http://vimeo.com/64361203
  3:10 its reefed 3:15 you can see the points

  
  
  That was confusing, I thought you meant the Force 5 sail also.
  
  The reason the Hobie sail in the video has reef points is that reefing is a race requirement for the Everglades Challenge where the video was made.
  
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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 12:13 PM

  But what is the second row of reef points for? Its on the pics on their website to
  
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• MN3
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 12:31 PM

  for when the wind goes from really bad to insanely bad. Last year's Everglades Challenge kickoff (@ fort desoto) was a 30 knot run (all downwind)
  
  at least 1/2 dozen time we have been camping on the spoil islands, and sunday morning it's blowin 25+.
  not so fun sailing home with a full tramp stuffed with camping gear (and a dog in my case).
  
  I have sailed jib only, and bare pole only several times. a small storm main would have been nice
  
  
  

  optikid

  But what is the second row of reef points for? Its on the pics on their website to

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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 01:23 PM

  So would you tie it to the cleat for the second one?
  
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• DamonLinkous
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 02:26 PM

  optikid

  But what is the second row of reef points for? Its on the pics on their website to

  
  
  I doubt the reef points are standard on the Intensity H16 sail.
  
  That particular Hobie 16 sail in the video is the same boat in this picture.
  
  
  and has had the two reef points added to meet the WaterTribe Reefing Rule which states.
  
  

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  Reefing Rule for ALL Class 3, 4, 5, and 6 Boats: All sailing classes must have a safe and efficient reefing, furling, or recovery system for all sails. You must know how to use your reefing system and it must be fully rigged and ready to go before you launch. If there is a small craft advisory at the time of launch and you don't have all reefs in your sail, you will be immediately DQed.
  
  Reefing is highly recommended but not required for standing sails less than or equal to 12 sqft.
  
  At least one reef point is required for standing sails less than or equal to 36 sqft. Having two reef points is highly recommended for these sails.
  
  At least two reef points is required for any standing sail greater than 36 sqft.

  
  
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• optikid
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 03:16 PM

  that makes sense.. so if you have a new boat the hobie sails wouldn't work
  
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• MN3
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 03:54 PM

  you can add grommets and make it reef-able
  
  

  optikid

  that makes sense.. so if you have a new boat the hobie sails wouldn't work

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• yelkenli1
  
  

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  Posted: Aug 06, 2013 - 04:06 PM

  Do the stock Hobie sails come with reef points? I don't see them in the pictures, and my sail set (early to mid 2000s old) does not have them. My sails from 30+ years ago did.
  
  How many racers have reefing grommets on their sails, or is that not a widely adopted rule (bad for traveling racers)?
  
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