Am I Safe or Sorry? (Damaged Hobie Tiger mast)

jakob5_10

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Posted: May 30, 2017 - 04:49 PM

My mast fell of and landed on a cleat and got a dent!
How overbuild is a tiger mast ? can I continue to use it ? If it break how is it most likely to happen ?

Still waiting for the insurance company to come with a verdict an my gut tells me that it is safe to use and not wanting to loose to many sailing days I will properly continue using it!! Is that Stupid ??

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chump23

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Posted: May 30, 2017 - 04:59 PM

That doesn't look like a big deal to me, but don't listen to me... I don't know anything,

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Dogboy

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Posted: May 30, 2017 - 06:31 PM

If it were up higher on the mast where there is a lot of bending load, it would definitely be a concern. But down low on the mast where the load is primarily compression, I think it is probably much less of an issue. Still not good though. The failure mode would likely be the mast buckling around the dent.

Did you have your mast step pin in when it fell?

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PIRATE39

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Posted: May 30, 2017 - 10:48 PM

That mast ill be fine . Damage is to low to make it unsafe .. Sail fast

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samc99us

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Posted: May 31, 2017 - 08:59 AM

You should get a replacement tube, but that stick is totally fine to sail on. An Infusion sailed Nationals with compression damage higher up on the tube that was worse and didn't have any issues.
MN3

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Posted: May 31, 2017 - 09:48 AM

It's so low it would be pretty easy to take off the base and sleeve it
that's what i would do - and use the insurance money to buy lots of rum
bruiser

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Posted: May 31, 2017 - 10:20 AM

That looks like one of my good masts. So definitely a keeper for me. I have dents high up on a mast and have had no issue there either. Where that is located I think it is totally a non-issue. I have had 2 mast failures, never one from a dent.
samc99us

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Posted: May 31, 2017 - 04:08 PM

Bruiser, what rigs? There are vast differences in loads between a Hobie 14 rig and an aluminum F18 rig.

MN3, that approach I do tend to agree with, you can probably get in there and have an autobody shop pull it back to level and sleeve internally. At the same time, now is a good time to upgrade to a modern rig, which the Hobie Tiger will benefit from drastically. Either an Infusion rig or a Cirrus rig (Exploder and Falcon use the same extrusion as the Cirrus rig, the Wildcat may as well) will work very nicely. You will need a new main but that doesn't have to happen with the mast if insurance won't pony up. I'm not even sure you can find a Tiger stick anymore but I'm not the Hobie expert.
jakob5_10

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Posted: May 31, 2017 - 04:51 PM

The insurance company has ordered a new mast, and is paying for a new cleat and the repair of my main. So thumbs up to them for that

I will keep the old mast as a spare, in case something drastic happens to the new one!

I have thought of upgrading to a new one, but the boat is not being used for racing, so durabilitet and simplecity is important

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MN3

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Posted: Jun 01, 2017 - 08:15 AM

QuoteThe insurance company has ordered a new mast, and is paying for a new cleat and the repair of my main. So thumbs up to them for that

sweeet!
don't omit the rum!

what company do you use?
klozhald

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Posted: Jun 01, 2017 - 11:29 AM

[quoteMN3what company do you use?[/quote]
I'm interested as well.

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jakob5_10

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Posted: Jun 01, 2017 - 03:26 PM

Thank you very much for all your input!

Regarding the name of the insurance company I am pretty much sure that you need a danish social security number, and a danish adresses, plus a danish boat!!

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MN3

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Posted: Jun 01, 2017 - 03:46 PM

QuoteRegarding the name of the insurance company I am pretty much sure that you need a danish social security number, and a danish adresses, plus a danish boat!!

That is discriminatory ! :)