Jib Furlers :: Catamaran Sailboats at TheBeachcats.com

Jib Furlers

cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 09, 2013 - 09:07 AM

So I have seen a lot of furlers, home made to high dollar. Wondering what kind of experience you guys have with them?

Found this one that looks affordable, is it decent? http://www.shopsoundboatw…rE1s7XorgCFW1yQgodNTIAzg

Thanks
Kevin
Wolfman

Rank: Chief

Registered: Jun 24, 2009

Last visit: Jun 15, 2023

Posts: 1555
Posted: Jul 09, 2013 - 09:20 AM

This is my second season using that furler. Works great so far. One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow. you basically have to attach both sides using a bow shackle or use a single tang and pin in the slots. To attach an adjuster. No big deal if you know about it.

Given a preference i like the hobie 18 style harken furlers the best. Bullet proof and you can get a convenient bracket for a wind indicator.

--
Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
--
MN3

Rank: Master Chief

Registered: Jun 20, 2006

Last visit: Apr 06, 2024

Posts: 7088
Posted: Jul 09, 2013 - 09:32 AM

that one is load rated higher than the harken dingy/cat ones but is not as robust

They seem to work fine on smaller cats (16's) but don't seem to hold up on 18's and up

PS the Hobie style ones are made by harken

QuoteFound this one that looks affordable, is it decent? http://www.shopsoundboatw…rE1s7XorgCFW1yQgodNTIAzg
klozhald

Rank: Chief

Registered: Apr 19, 2011

Last visit: Dec 13, 2023

Posts: 1445
Posted: Jul 09, 2013 - 11:53 AM

cellguruWondering what kind of experience you guys have with them?

You will need an upper swivel to use the furler. Buy a good one. Some of the lessor quality ones do not rotate well or freeze, and that is never good.

--
Sheet In!
Bob
_/)_____/)_/)____/)____/)_____/)/)__________/)__
Prindle 18-2 #244 "Wakizashi"
Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
AZ Multihull Fleet 42 member
(Way) Past Commodore of Prindle Fleet 14
Arizona, USA
--
beachsailor

Rank: Lubber

Registered: Jul 14, 2004

Last visit: Jan 21, 2015

Posts: 84
Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 09:21 AM

Last Time I checked the on Harken below bridle furlers were being discontinued. This is the only model now listed on thier website(http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650) and it says that it is out of stock on line and to check with your dealer. Discounted to 161.00.

Edited by beachsailor on Jul 10, 2013 - 09:22 AM.
MN3

Rank: Master Chief

Registered: Jun 20, 2006

Last visit: Apr 06, 2024

Posts: 7088
Posted: Jul 10, 2013 - 09:37 AM

If you purchase the kit (upper and lower units) the price is not much more.
I would recommend the high load unit (or purchase turlon bearings and do the upgrade yourself) for most cats.

beachsailorLast Time I checked the on Harken below bridle furlers were being discontinued. This is the only model now listed on thier website(http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650) and it says that it is out of stock on line and to check with your dealer. Discounted to 161.00.Edited by beachsailor on Jul 10, 2013 - 09:22 AM.
cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 11, 2013 - 07:47 PM

How about this, the price is right?

http://www.amazon.com/Ron…=8-1&keywords=Jib+Furler

Nevermind, it looks like it is the same one!

Edited by cellguru on Jul 11, 2013 - 07:50 PM.
beachsailor

Rank: Lubber

Registered: Jul 14, 2004

Last visit: Jan 21, 2015

Posts: 84
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 08:05 AM

Wrong type. You need the below bridle to work correctly.
cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 09:14 AM

Could a guy not fabricate a mount to make it "below bridle"? It looks like that is the primary difference between this one and the NLA Harken http://www.harken.com/productdetail.aspx?id=5650

Thanks
beachsailor

Rank: Lubber

Registered: Jul 14, 2004

Last visit: Jan 21, 2015

Posts: 84
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 02:33 PM

No. The bearing under the neck has to support the load. If you look at the one you selected there is no neck, just the attachment point. Look for a used one. Even if worn Harken sells rebuid kits.
cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 05:39 PM

QuoteThis is my second season using that furler. Works great so far. One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow. you basically have to attach both sides using a bow shackle or use a single tang and pin in the slots.

So how did you make this work Wolfman?
cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 06:23 PM

So is this the one everyone likes?

http://www.murrays.com/mm…-61900000&Category_Code=
Wolfman

Rank: Chief

Registered: Jun 24, 2009

Last visit: Jun 15, 2023

Posts: 1555
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 07:35 PM

It wasnt a problem. You DONT need an underbridle furler, they are just nice to have. You attach the 2 bridle wires to the bottom of the furler using a bow shackle (or 3 is you have fork ends on you bridle wires). Then attach your adjuster to the top of the furler with a short stainless tang. Your swivel and an air block attach to the top of the forestay for the halyard. You run the halyard back to the adjuster to tension and tie off the sail. The only trick is you have to get your forestay shortened to compensate for the length of the furler and swivel. Quite a few cats run a similar setup. I think hobie has a schematic on thier website. I cam draw one next week when im back home if you like.

--
Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
--
Wolfman

Rank: Chief

Registered: Jun 24, 2009

Last visit: Jun 15, 2023

Posts: 1555
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 07:55 PM

If you sail hard every weekend like MN3 you are better off with the Harken. I sail about 20-30 days a year and the ronstan is fine for me. Or if you are patient you can get a harken setup used on the buy and sell here or ebay. I think there is one on there right now.

--
Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
--
cellguru

Rank: Lubber

Registered: May 04, 2013

Last visit: Jul 14, 2013

Posts: 35
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 07:55 PM

Thanks Wolfman, that would be great, I think I have a pretty good mental picture of it all. A photo or two would be great!

Quote I cam draw one next week when im back home if you like.

Thanks
Kevin
Edchris177

Rank: Chief

Registered: Nov 26, 2009

Last visit: Apr 10, 2024

Posts: 2524
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 - 10:20 PM

Quote One issue is that the slot at each end is a little narrow.

Never forget the judicious use of a Tap-O-Meter, AKA ball been hammer.
I have thimbles on the bottom end of the forestay of my 5.7. It didn't want to go into the end of the Harken drum. 15 seconds with the Tap-O-Meter changed that.

--
Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
--
MN3

Rank: Master Chief

Registered: Jun 20, 2006

Last visit: Apr 06, 2024

Posts: 7088
Posted: Jul 13, 2013 - 05:58 AM

+1

Quotet wasnt a problem. You DONT need an underbridle furler

I love Murray's but i wouldn't purchase this from them. Find a dealer (or call harken) and purchase an entire kit (upper and lower) together or you will pay MUCH more