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[quote=DamonLinkous][quote=shortyfox]I'm not familiar with the P-16 rudder system but I have to say that replacing the two pintles with a one piece steel rod is better if you can do it.  You may have to slide them in from the bottom and you may find that the drain plugs will prevent them from falling out.  The reason I like this method is that it eliminates a lot of the slop you get with older boats that have the holes in the rudder castings routed out.  There are also bushings you can use to stiffen the rudders and using both these techniques will really stiffen the rudders.  Hardware stores sell steel rods and if you can find one the appropriate diameter try it and see.  It won't be stainless but you can coat it with grease and if you like it you can source out some stainless.[/quote]
Yah the Prindles are as you describe from the factory except on the P16 it's an aluminum bar.  It is reasonably slop free.  I added bushing to the rudder pivots when i was rebuilding the kick up mechanism.  If the bar doesn't fall out the bottom again I think I'm good.  Went last night and nothing fell off.  :-D

Having the Pintle remove out the bottom has it's challenges, besides the potential of falling out, when trying to install them on the boat at my dock after it's launched.  I had to jam it down in the mud and then float the boat over it. A bit challenging but it worked.

[quote=jonathan162]
There's little reason to be afraid.  The shear force exerted when you pull it up by hand may seem like a lot to a mere mortal.[/quote]

This boat's kickup system seems pretty well designed to protect itself when grounding.  The boat has survived many decades with the system it has.  If I'm worried about hitting something or if I'm sick of having to pull hard on the up haul line, I can just not bother to lock them in the down position which is what I did last night.  Oh and there are many other issues this boat has that are far more pressing that need attention.  For now if it works I'm on to something else  :-)[/quote]

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