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[quote=MN3][quote]just have a hard time seeing how elastic, even tight elastic can seal out water [/quote] I understand and was skeptical myself equip failure of this nature can be fatal This is a kayaker's dry suit. these guys would be dead - quick if it didn't work When used with a dry top - it becomes a drysuit you curl in a neoprene flaps several wraps. With flaps on both the bib and the dry top .. nothing is getting in or out of that see the pdf (steps 1 through 4, the other steps of to add a kayak skirt) [url=https://kokatat.com/pdf/KokatatBibFold.pdf]https://kokatat.com/pdf/KokatatBibFold.pdf[/url] with only a spray top (with neck and wrist gasket/flap)- its pretty much the same Without a spray-top/dry top .. .just wearing the bib (and SOME kind of light jacket/shirt (like in the spring): if you fall in during a capsize, fall overboard, walk in ... you can go up to your armpits and no water can get into the bib. If your tops get totally soaked... you can accumulate water above the neoprene if you get thrown in and all your body goes underwater : the elastic waistband is such a major part of this gear that it does in fact seal up pretty tight - I guess water could eventually pool and wick in i depending on what your wearing above and underneath i.e. water gets in your spray top/shirt... accumulates around the elastic and possibly trickle in - you'd have to be in the water a long time without pfd) if you are wearing jeans underneath (as i have done in the past) and a sweater of fleece that is crossing through the upper and lower part, creating a path for water - this could be an issue in the sealing up (use of the correct gear would eliminate this risk) All that being said: i live in fl - and have sailed a lot I have pretty much given up on sailing in any weather that calls for this gear<!-- editby --><em>Edited by MN3 on Jan 14, 2018 - 10:50 AM.</em><!-- end editby --> [/quote]

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