Cool beachcat sailing videos -

your own, or one you found.

Some of my own
- Sister-in-law in town for a visit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP2W9ay5caA
- My son - early outing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36an3hUI3AA
- My son - helm, mainsheet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyxUgqWfuwY
- Sunset - after work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5noFYT453k
- Today, with a friend - 15 minutes of pure joy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqdiXwl57hI
MN3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgu3DM2ruyI&t=35s


It looks like you've got the main sheet cleated more than its not. Is that correct? I've been keeping in uncleated in the event of an unexpected puff so I can quickly depower. The downside is I am likely never sheeted in as far as I should be ...

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Dana, Holly, Emma & Hannah

LJ/Stu's Dart 18
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dartsailors
It looks like you've got the main sheet cleated more than its not. Is that correct?

you are correct:

that was pretty med air, and as long as no one is "above you" (like when zack was just above me in the video), if you get hit with a gust you can usually steer upwind for a second and negate the power of the gust/ reduce heeling (opposite when going downwind - you need to steer downwind to reduce power)

the real issue is when you are on a reach and don't know which way to steer off the power in a gust

when i am in real wind, i don't cleat nearly as often
but cleating is a good way to preserve strength if sailing for all day

you can adjust (well, i can ...) the sheeting angle of the main blocks so it's just right ... easy to cleat easy to uncleat - problem with that is ... sheeting angles can be very different on and off the wire



Edited by MN3 on Aug 06, 2018 - 02:37 PM.
Cleat? What cleat!? Boom-mounted ratchet and "gardening gloves"! icon_smile
MN3you can adjust (well, i can ...) the sheeting angle of the main blocks so it's just right ... easy to cleat easy to uncleat - problem with that is ... sheeting angles can be very different on and off the wireEdited by MN3 on Aug 06, 2018 - 02:37 PM.


I can adjust mine as well, but I think they are set at the highest angle for use while on the trapeze. I've left them there because that angle requires me to lift up to cleat, avoiding the main sheet getting cleated unexpectedly.

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Dana, Holly, Emma & Hannah

LJ/Stu's Dart 18
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dartsailors
MN3you can adjust (well, i can ...) the sheeting angle of the main blocks so it's just right ... easy to cleat easy to uncleat - problem with that is ... sheeting angles can be very different on and off the wireEdited by MN3 on Aug 06, 2018 - 02:37 PM.


I can adjust mine as well, but I think they are set at the highest angle for use while on the trapeze. I've left them there because that angle requires me to lift up to cleat, avoiding the main sheet getting cleatted unexpectedly.

hmmmm.
typically being on the wire results in a lower sheeting angle (as you should be sitting about deck level vs sitting on it, and your hand/arm 1' above the deck | give or take)


If you are comfortable un-cleatted, and since you don't have an enormous sail to hold... it's not a big deal at all

I think it is certainly much better to err in the side of safety (harder to cleat, easier to uncleat)
Solo windy choppy
max boat speed 18.6knots
https://youtu.be/LeEN77NJdfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8
davefarmerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8

interesting tiller
MN3
davefarmerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqZcwbk9W8

interesting tiller


Curious - what's interesting/different about it?...
Are you referring to the tiller arrangement on the ARC? I like the system a lot, don't have to pass the hiking stick behind the mainsheet when tacking/jibing. And the pull is from 2' ahead of the rear beam. This allows the skipper to be located fwd of the crew, who is running the traveler to control the power of the main, and positioning him just ahead of the rear beam maximizes his pulling power(it's a brutal job when fully powered up). This maintains sail shape when depowering, and quite precise adjustments can be made quickly. Carefully controlling power with the traveler allows the skipper to maintain a straight course, keeping the windward hull just clear of the surface.

For those who didn't notice it in the video, an arm pivoting off the underside of the rear beam, controls the rudders via pushrods to the rudder heads, which allows the hiking stick to work from a position about 2' forward of the rear beam, better leverage, and easier to flip the stick to the opposite side of the boat when tacking.



Edited by davefarmer on Aug 08, 2018 - 03:49 PM.
yes i was talking about the tiller arrangement
would it be possible on a 18' or 20' cat? (i couldn't clearly see the whole system)

does it gain or lose or change any control on the rudders?

change - i.e. need more or less exaggerated movement to achieve the same turning radius, or other
Andinista
https://www.youtube.com/w…=pelqd5CKUgI&app=desktop


great vids (and music)
i love the top down angle - no fisheye lens (curved lens) - you can really see the twist of the sail
Nacra 5.7 on Squam Lake, NH videos:
https://vimeo.com/230706720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=168&v=mxbdUDMctjc

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Eric Morse, Nacra 5.0 and Nacra 5.7 on Squam Lake, NH
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davefarmerAre you referring to the tiller arrangement on the ARC? I like the system a lot, don't have to pass the hiking stick behind the mainsheet when tacking/jibing. And the pull is from 2' ahead of the rear beam. This allows the skipper to be located fwd of the crew, who is running the traveler to control the power of the main, and positioning him just ahead of the rear beam maximizes his pulling power(it's a brutal job when fully powered up). This maintains sail shape when depowering, and quite precise adjustments can be made quickly. Carefully controlling power with the traveler allows the skipper to maintain a straight course, keeping the windward hull just clear of the surface.

For those who didn't notice it in the video, an arm pivoting off the underside of the rear beam, controls the rudders via pushrods to the rudder heads, which allows the hiking stick to work from a position about 2' forward of the rear beam, better leverage, and easier to flip the stick to the opposite side of the boat when tacking.Edited by davefarmer on Aug 08, 2018 - 03:49 PM.


I'm with Andrew that it's very interesting. I find that when I have the tiller extended, even if I move it far enough out to clear the sail, I hit the bottom batten.

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Dana, Holly, Emma & Hannah

LJ/Stu's Dart 18
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SquamCatNacra 5.7 on Squam Lake, NH videos:
https://vimeo.com/230706720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=168&v=mxbdUDMctjc


I see that you’re not limited to liquid water ...
This is pretty cool sailing too!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ivCDFK74HzA
Can't let this thread fall off the homepage listing icon_wink -- so took to water yesterday, with my trusted 8yo helm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQxe3PzXd8
MN3yes i was talking about the tiller arrangement
would it be possible on a 18' or 20' cat? (i couldn't clearly see the whole system)

does it gain or lose or change any control on the rudders?

change - i.e. need more or less exaggerated movement to achieve the same turning radius, or other



I think this system would work for any sized cat, and I can't perceive any difference in feel or control from the standard crossbar/tiller extension system. A simple bracket needs to be fabricated to attach to the underside of the rear beam, to provide a horizontal, flat surface for the steering arm to attach to. I had a steering arm constructed by a sheet metal guy, that just involved cutting it to shape, and doing a couple of simple bends. Control rods from the steering arm to the rudder heads/casings are aluminum tubing with Heim joints from McMaster Carr. A provision needs to be made at the top of the casing to accept a vertical bolt for the Heim joint attachment, mine had a plate welded on. If you want to pursue this, I can provide detailed photos. I was planning to make this mod for the SC20 project boat I have.

Dave
Here's the F16 Stealth on Flathead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmLM_Q8LZxI
Quote on. If you want to pursue this, I can provide detailed photos.

I would love to see more detailed images if it's not too big a pita

thanks Dave
Introduce to you guys our sailing venue Cabo Frio - RJ
https://youtu.be/q1Kh5XOVy5U

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Hobie Cat 16 1997
BRA 100400
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https://youtu.be/owv2JhcULSw



Edited by onekiwi on Aug 30, 2018 - 12:13 PM.

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Carl

Dart 18x2

1967 B-LION for sale
1985 Hobie 18
Windrider Rave x2
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I've been hooked on the joyrider TV youtube channel. Great instructional videos for a range of boats and the filming is some of the best I've ever seen. They set up 2 or 3 cameras on the boat so you can see exactly what they're talking about instead of just the one on the bridle you usually see.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lHDaNse_-YIaYNeparQ_w
Cool video -- new technique to have a "chase" camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgtFzjie6o

Discussion and longer vid at http://forums.sailinganar…dComment&comment=6348362
Also, a tiger-striped foiling cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSifr6loIJs
And here's a very different edit of that same outing -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zsLAPxnJjU
Nice videos, but the fisheye/parralax in that last one really lost me. Everything is so curved, it is like sailing in a fish bow. There is a limit to how wide the angle can be and still make sense.

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Tom
NACRA 5.7 (1984 Sail 181)
Pennsylvania
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When the crew is profesional in video production...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jn_bePTGDtk
https://youtu.be/owv2JhcULSw

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Carl

Dart 18x2

1967 B-LION for sale
1985 Hobie 18
Windrider Rave x2
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can some one tell me how to edit an older post?
thanks



Edited by onekiwi on Jan 16, 2019 - 04:20 PM.

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Carl

Dart 18x2

1967 B-LION for sale
1985 Hobie 18
Windrider Rave x2
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Carl... Where is this lake Isabella? Quite a beautiful place to sail.

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Frank
Prindle 15/Hobie 16/Hobie 14T
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Lake Isabella is at the southern end of the Sierra Nevada mountain range in California.93240
Nice sailing but pretty gusty sometimes, the lake is at 2500 ft elevation with some 7-8 k ft peaks around it.

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Carl

Dart 18x2

1967 B-LION for sale
1985 Hobie 18
Windrider Rave x2
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davefarmerHere's the F16 Stealth on Flathead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmLM_Q8LZxI


Old video but wow, water temps 43 degrees? Assume you guys were wearing dry suits(?). What time of year was this and what length of sailing season do you generally get out there? Any chance of calling someone for rescue/assistance on that lake if something breaks on you and you're too far out to swim through 43 degree waters to shore?

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1998 P18.2
Sailing out of SHBCC, NJ
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Quotecan some one tell me how to edit an older post?
thanks

i think after some time you can no longer edit your old posts

IF it is mission critical: you could simply contact and probably bribe Damon
Very cool videos everyone!
Surprised that no one has linked the iconic Sharing The Wind video.
Allow me.
https://youtu.be/u_rfKUE675Y

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Joshua

Texas Gulf Coast
'82 Prindle 16 (Badfish)
'02 Hobie Wave (Unnamed Project)
‘87 Hobie 18 (Sold)
‘89 Hobie 17 (ill-advised project boat, Sold)
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badfishVery cool videos everyone!
Surprised that no one has linked the iconic Sharing The Wind video.
Allow me.
https://youtu.be/u_rfKUE675Y


Wow! I had seen the wave jumps but didn't konw it was part of a full video.
I liked the daggerboarding part..
Andinista
badfishVery cool videos everyone!
Surprised that no one has linked the iconic Sharing The Wind video.
Allow me.
https://youtu.be/u_rfKUE675Y


Wow! I had seen the wave jumps but didn't konw it was part of a full video.
I liked the daggerboarding part..


Watching them from the beach, get on, sheet in and sail to the waters edge and then off they go. That’s definitionally cool. Horrible for the poor 18, but slick.



Edited by badfish on Jan 18, 2019 - 10:54 PM.

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Joshua

Texas Gulf Coast
'82 Prindle 16 (Badfish)
'02 Hobie Wave (Unnamed Project)
‘87 Hobie 18 (Sold)
‘89 Hobie 17 (ill-advised project boat, Sold)
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