The Perfect Launch Site

Another thread about launching from a ramp got me thinking about what is considered the "ideal" features of a launch site for beachcats?

I'd like to establish a rating system, maybe a 5 star system where 5 stars is ideal and 1 means "possible, but a big hassle".

To me, some of the ingredients of the ideal launch site are

  • Being able to back the trailer directly to where it will be launched from the beach.

  • Free parking within sight of where you launch.

  • No obstructions between shore where you launch and open water.

  • Other Ideas?


I'd like some ideas on a best-to-worst rating system for launch sites by description also. Here's a start.

  • Able to drop the boat directly on the beach and sail away, no wheels necessary.

  • Able to roll the boat on beach wheels down to the water from parking with some effort.

  • Launching from a ramp where there is a sand beach next to it available for rigging.

  • Launching from a ramp where you will have to use a dock, but has a clear path to open water.

  • Launching from a ramp in a marina where several turns or long distance makes it impossible to sail to open water.


Please share your thoughts and ideas about features and structures that make up a good or bad place to launch.

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Slope of beach.
Composition of beach (rock, sand, concrete, etc.)
Depth of water.
Prevailing winds.
Restrooms.
Source of fresh water.

Off the top of my head...



edited by: lonbordin, Aug 25, 2010 - 04:07 PM

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Are we talking about trailer launching?

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Slope of beach.
Composition of beach (rock, sand, concrete, etc.)
Depth of water.
Prevailing winds.
Restrooms.
Source of fresh water.


Good stuff!
I'll probably want to include info about available accommodations or camping available and how far. Probably put all that on a Google Map of the area.

What items do you think should be included in a rating system for catamaran launch sites? Think of it like the Michelin Restaurant Guide

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smfinleyAre we talking about trailer launching?

Both, any place where you could possibly launch a beachcat. Maybe I'm wrong in my "quality order" and some people prefer ramps vs backing straight to the beach? I don't know that's why I'd like feedback.

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Power lines, other overhead impediments.
Launch Fees
Overnight Storage?, ie, mast up?, on the beach?


Maybe a point system...higher number of points for very good qualities we like, negative points for things that are bad for beachcats.

For example,
10 points for the ability to back trailer onto beach area and launch without wheels.
-10 points for concrete only with no beach.
5 points for Concrete ramp with adjacent beach.
-5 points for no restroom facilities.

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how about proximetry to food, gas, marine store, existing fleet/other cats, organized racing, bikini's, or privacy...this is a good thread!

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Damon, the problem with assigning a rating is no one will agree on what is most important. Our pilot group just went through such a survey with regards to what should be the focus of contract negotiations, ie priority 1-2-3 etc. They attempted to assign ratings. Things got pretty heated, at times I wanted to just slap them, both for infantilism, & because they didn't agree with MY views icon_lol
I know from experience it is very difficult to do what you are proposing. I certainly don't want to discourage your attempt at a very worthwhile project, what about a major modification to the format?
I was thinking just build a bingo chart. Down the first column would be the name, second column location,(town, GPS etc). Across the top wouold be all the features, with a "dot" or "Checkmark" to indicate if those features are available at that site. I like the dots, as they can be color coded to further define a feature.
It would work just like a campground report. On one chart you can list hundreds of sites, with room for dozens of features. This allows the end user to see exactly what is there, & pick a spot that has the features that are important to them, thereby eliminating the subjectivity of a ratings system. Each row across (site) will be numbered in chronological order. You can then have an appendix with written notes or comments from users that is easily updated. If a particular site adds features, it is very simple to just add a dot, & perhaps a note in the appendix, without having to recalculate a "rating".
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But before you say, "that peckerhead doesn't know jack schitt", consider the following;
Jack is the only son of Awe Schitt. Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt, the owner of Needeep N. Schitt.
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So there, I do know Jack Schitt"!

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edited by: Edchris177, Aug 25, 2010 - 07:49 PM

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QuoteIt would work just like a campground report. On one chart you can list hundreds of sites, with room for dozens of features. This allows the end user to see exactly what is there, & pick a spot that has the features that are important to them, thereby eliminating the subjectivity of a ratings system. Each row across (site) will be numbered in chronological order. You can then have an appendix with written notes or comments from users that is easily updated. If a particular site adds features, it is very simple to just add a dot, & perhaps a note in the appendix, without having to recalculate a "rating".


I like this. Instead of an appendix, a link to a more detailed description would be nice. They could be listed by state so you can find the ones in your area of interest.



edited by: skarr1, Aug 25, 2010 - 08:07 PM
I agree with edshcitt77. List the features across the top, sites down the left and then use a dot or no dot system. No subjective scoring like sailinagin mentioned - oh that was me. Bad idea.



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Does that picture count for or against that launch site? icon_razz

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http://www.osyc.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14727&g2_serialNumber=2

And...

http://www.osyc.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14803&g2_serialNumber=2

And...
http://www.osyc.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14891&g2_serialNumber=2

Forgot to add.... site of 2011 H18, H17, H14 and Wave Nationals... icon_smile And maybe Wave and H16 Youth Nats.
it counts against if you can't hold your liquer! but if you have a "mardi grass" mentality, it's for it!

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Surfside Texas 10 Mile Spot! Nearly unlimited Free parking & camping on the sandy beach with no beach crowd and the wide open Gulf to yourself you rarely see a power boat or jet ski.
After further review I'll add another couple of descriptives:

-1 if a beach is overcrowded

-10 ratio of males to females (2 guys and 0 gals = a negative rating)

-100 if there are more PWCs than sailboats



edited by: lonbordin, Aug 26, 2010 - 11:31 PM

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coastratit counts against if you can't hold your liquer! but if you have a "mardi grass" mentality, it's for it!


oat soda = sailboat fuel icon_smile